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		<title>Comment on Vail Wins &#8211; Aspen Loses! by BarrySoteroSucks</title>
		<link>http://eaglecountytimes.com/2012/02/19/vail-wins-aspen-loses/#comment-2466</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the libs picked on GW for being &quot;stupid&quot; yet we have a Harvard Grad president who started college on &quot;student aide for foreign students&quot; in Claremont, CA and sends his family on tax payer paid vactions all over the world because he doesn&#039;t own a vacation property.  Meanwhile, our &quot;dumb&quot; president GW vactioned at his Crawford, TX ranch that he owns!  Too bad we have such a liberal media that won&#039;t dare put a Democrat in their place, but woudln&#039;t hesitate to jump all over a Republican.  At some point in the near future, American will wake up and start realizing they are being taken for a bad circus ride!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the libs picked on GW for being &#8220;stupid&#8221; yet we have a Harvard Grad president who started college on &#8220;student aide for foreign students&#8221; in Claremont, CA and sends his family on tax payer paid vactions all over the world because he doesn&#8217;t own a vacation property.  Meanwhile, our &#8220;dumb&#8221; president GW vactioned at his Crawford, TX ranch that he owns!  Too bad we have such a liberal media that won&#8217;t dare put a Democrat in their place, but woudln&#8217;t hesitate to jump all over a Republican.  At some point in the near future, American will wake up and start realizing they are being taken for a bad circus ride!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vail Wins &#8211; Aspen Loses! by Eye On County Tax-Takers</title>
		<link>http://eaglecountytimes.com/2012/02/19/vail-wins-aspen-loses/#comment-2462</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eye On County Tax-Takers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re Costs on Air Force 1 and 2--

&quot;Air Force-estimated cost of $181,757 per flight hour&quot; http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/01/obama-air-force-one-2010-by-the-numbers.html

--and Carbon Footprints--- (What about your Carbon Footprint Mrs. Obama?)

 * A car with 40 mpg fuel economy driven for 2400 miles emits 0.708 (of CO2  aka &#039;Carbon Footprint&#039;)

* A average airplane flown for 2400 miles emits 1.164 (of CO2  aka &#039;Carbon Footprint&#039;)


And with many thanks to our British Reporters--please read on.

SPAIN: AUGUST 2010
Michelle Obama and 40 of her friends paid for personal expenses, such as hotels and meals themselves. 
* But the U.S. taxpayer would have paid for the 68-strong security detail, personal staff and use of presidential jet Air Force Two. 
* Payment for the secret service team ran at around $281 each - nearly $98,000 for the duration of the summer break. 
* Use of Air Force Two comes in at $149,900 for the round trip, not including time on the ground. 

Mrs Obama&#039;s personal staff, of which there were an unknown number, should also be taken into account

HAWAII: DECEMBER 2010
According to the Hawaii Reporter the costs were: $63,000 on an early flight bringing Mrs Obama and the children to Hawaii ahead of the President 
* $1,000,000 on Mr Obama’s return trip from Washington on Air Force One 
* $16,000 to rent nearby homes for Secret Service and Navy Seals 
* $134,000 for 24 White House staff to stay at the Moana Hotel 
* $251,000 in police overtime 
* $10,000 for an ambulance to be on hand at all times 

SKI TRIP TO VAIL: FEBRUARY 2011
Michelle Obama and her daughters stayed at the Sebastian hotel on Vail Mountain, where rooms cost more than $2,400 for multi-bedroom suites. 
The family appear to have flown there on Air Force Two. 
They were escorted to the resort by about a dozen vehicles, including 15 state and local law enforcement officers.

MARTHA&#039;S VINEYARD: AUGUST 2011
The Blue Heron Farm estate, where the Obama family stayed, rents for about $50,000 a week. 
Michelle, Sasha and Malia Obama flew to the estate just hours before the president to make the most of the holiday - again, incurring extra flight costs. 
According to U.S. News and World Report, the Coast Guard was required to keep ships floating near the property. The presidential helicopter and jet remain at the ready and security agents will be on 24-hour duty.

HAWAII: DECEMBER 2011
According to the Hawaii Reporter the costs were:
* $63,000 on an early flight bringing Mrs Obama and the children to Hawaii ahead of the President but add security and personnel for a total of about $100,000 
* $3,271,622 on Mr Obama’s return trip from Washington on Air Force One 
* $151,200  to rent nearby homes for Secret Service and Navy Seals 
* $72,216  for 24 White House staff to stay at the Moana Hotel

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103173/Just-weeks-17-day-Hawaii-holiday-Michelle-Obama-takes-daughters-ski-trip-Aspen.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Costs on Air Force 1 and 2&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;Air Force-estimated cost of $181,757 per flight hour&#8221; <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/01/obama-air-force-one-2010-by-the-numbers.html" rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/01/obama-air-force-one-2010-by-the-numbers.html</a></p>
<p>&#8211;and Carbon Footprints&#8212; (What about your Carbon Footprint Mrs. Obama?)</p>
<p> * A car with 40 mpg fuel economy driven for 2400 miles emits 0.708 (of CO2  aka &#8216;Carbon Footprint&#8217;)</p>
<p>* A average airplane flown for 2400 miles emits 1.164 (of CO2  aka &#8216;Carbon Footprint&#8217;)</p>
<p>And with many thanks to our British Reporters&#8211;please read on.</p>
<p>SPAIN: AUGUST 2010<br />
Michelle Obama and 40 of her friends paid for personal expenses, such as hotels and meals themselves.<br />
* But the U.S. taxpayer would have paid for the 68-strong security detail, personal staff and use of presidential jet Air Force Two.<br />
* Payment for the secret service team ran at around $281 each &#8211; nearly $98,000 for the duration of the summer break.<br />
* Use of Air Force Two comes in at $149,900 for the round trip, not including time on the ground. </p>
<p>Mrs Obama&#8217;s personal staff, of which there were an unknown number, should also be taken into account</p>
<p>HAWAII: DECEMBER 2010<br />
According to the Hawaii Reporter the costs were: $63,000 on an early flight bringing Mrs Obama and the children to Hawaii ahead of the President<br />
* $1,000,000 on Mr Obama’s return trip from Washington on Air Force One<br />
* $16,000 to rent nearby homes for Secret Service and Navy Seals<br />
* $134,000 for 24 White House staff to stay at the Moana Hotel<br />
* $251,000 in police overtime<br />
* $10,000 for an ambulance to be on hand at all times </p>
<p>SKI TRIP TO VAIL: FEBRUARY 2011<br />
Michelle Obama and her daughters stayed at the Sebastian hotel on Vail Mountain, where rooms cost more than $2,400 for multi-bedroom suites.<br />
The family appear to have flown there on Air Force Two.<br />
They were escorted to the resort by about a dozen vehicles, including 15 state and local law enforcement officers.</p>
<p>MARTHA&#8217;S VINEYARD: AUGUST 2011<br />
The Blue Heron Farm estate, where the Obama family stayed, rents for about $50,000 a week.<br />
Michelle, Sasha and Malia Obama flew to the estate just hours before the president to make the most of the holiday &#8211; again, incurring extra flight costs.<br />
According to U.S. News and World Report, the Coast Guard was required to keep ships floating near the property. The presidential helicopter and jet remain at the ready and security agents will be on 24-hour duty.</p>
<p>HAWAII: DECEMBER 2011<br />
According to the Hawaii Reporter the costs were:<br />
* $63,000 on an early flight bringing Mrs Obama and the children to Hawaii ahead of the President but add security and personnel for a total of about $100,000<br />
* $3,271,622 on Mr Obama’s return trip from Washington on Air Force One<br />
* $151,200  to rent nearby homes for Secret Service and Navy Seals<br />
* $72,216  for 24 White House staff to stay at the Moana Hotel</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103173/Just-weeks-17-day-Hawaii-holiday-Michelle-Obama-takes-daughters-ski-trip-Aspen.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103173/Just-weeks-17-day-Hawaii-holiday-Michelle-Obama-takes-daughters-ski-trip-Aspen.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Eagle Valley Land Trust &#8211; Blowing Smoke at County Taxpayers and local Moms! by eaglecountytimes</title>
		<link>http://eaglecountytimes.com/2012/02/19/eagle-valley-land-trust-blowing-smoke-at-county-taxpayers-and-local-moms/#comment-2461</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing wrong with having a &quot;wants vs. needs&quot; discussion in Eagle County, Colorado.
There is too much taxpayer money in the County&#039;s open space fund, (and if you believe the School District) not enough funding for our Public Schools.
Strange isn&#039;t it...that the folks over at the Daily Fishwrap haven&#039;t picked up on this...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong with having a &#8220;wants vs. needs&#8221; discussion in Eagle County, Colorado.<br />
There is too much taxpayer money in the County&#8217;s open space fund, (and if you believe the School District) not enough funding for our Public Schools.<br />
Strange isn&#8217;t it&#8230;that the folks over at the Daily Fishwrap haven&#8217;t picked up on this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eagle Valley Land Trust &#8211; Blowing Smoke at County Taxpayers and local Moms! by BarrySoteroSucks</title>
		<link>http://eaglecountytimes.com/2012/02/19/eagle-valley-land-trust-blowing-smoke-at-county-taxpayers-and-local-moms/#comment-2459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BarrySoteroSucks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly, our school district is top heavy.  Compared to other districts in the front range and elsewhere in Colorado, our district is top heavy with pay and personel.  There are other districts with better performing schools and administers being paid far less.  Perhaps this will be fact checked by one of those administrators with &quot;extra&quot; time on their hands!

I also believe it is time for users to step up.  Why is it such a hard concept that perhaps there should be some nominal charges for bus users, athletic fee&#039;s and students in general.  Teachers have offerred many solutions and a willingness to cut back.  The district says it will lose about $200 per student in state funding.  Well, parents?  My kids are in private school and I am making cuts in my personal spending to keep them there.  The free lunch is over people!  It&#039;s time for ALL parents to step up.

Repeal the open space tax.  It has been used and abused.  The $6MM spent on Edwards open space, millions on the Bair Ranch, Homestead.......what a joke!  Those are liberal ideas for job creation?  Nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, our school district is top heavy.  Compared to other districts in the front range and elsewhere in Colorado, our district is top heavy with pay and personel.  There are other districts with better performing schools and administers being paid far less.  Perhaps this will be fact checked by one of those administrators with &#8220;extra&#8221; time on their hands!</p>
<p>I also believe it is time for users to step up.  Why is it such a hard concept that perhaps there should be some nominal charges for bus users, athletic fee&#8217;s and students in general.  Teachers have offerred many solutions and a willingness to cut back.  The district says it will lose about $200 per student in state funding.  Well, parents?  My kids are in private school and I am making cuts in my personal spending to keep them there.  The free lunch is over people!  It&#8217;s time for ALL parents to step up.</p>
<p>Repeal the open space tax.  It has been used and abused.  The $6MM spent on Edwards open space, millions on the Bair Ranch, Homestead&#8230;&#8230;.what a joke!  Those are liberal ideas for job creation?  Nice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vail Wins &#8211; Aspen Loses! by BarrySoteroSucks</title>
		<link>http://eaglecountytimes.com/2012/02/19/vail-wins-aspen-loses/#comment-2458</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hollywood is there.  Corporate america is not.  They will feel much more at home in Aspen than Vail.  Good riddance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hollywood is there.  Corporate america is not.  They will feel much more at home in Aspen than Vail.  Good riddance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vail Wins &#8211; Aspen Loses! by eaglecountytimes</title>
		<link>http://eaglecountytimes.com/2012/02/19/vail-wins-aspen-loses/#comment-2456</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aspen is loaded with political &#039;leftists&#039;.
Their untrue, poorly reasoned comments don&#039;t surprise the ECT at all.
No doubt the mama-obama as you say...feels much more at home over there in Pitkin County!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aspen is loaded with political &#8216;leftists&#8217;.<br />
Their untrue, poorly reasoned comments don&#8217;t surprise the ECT at all.<br />
No doubt the mama-obama as you say&#8230;feels much more at home over there in Pitkin County!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vail Wins &#8211; Aspen Loses! by Paddy</title>
		<link>http://eaglecountytimes.com/2012/02/19/vail-wins-aspen-loses/#comment-2455</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Aspen&#039;s loss is Vail&#039;s gain...Mama Obama can be a hypocrite in Aspen instead of Vail this year...how much is this fandango costing the taxpayers??  I love the line about Aspen having better ski mountains...really?? Virtually every expert disagrees with that statement. Of course the first family does not care about skiing.,.Aspen must have had more decadent food! LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Aspen&#8217;s loss is Vail&#8217;s gain&#8230;Mama Obama can be a hypocrite in Aspen instead of Vail this year&#8230;how much is this fandango costing the taxpayers??  I love the line about Aspen having better ski mountains&#8230;really?? Virtually every expert disagrees with that statement. Of course the first family does not care about skiing.,.Aspen must have had more decadent food! LOL</p>
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